A doctor explains how pharmaceutical incentives and centralized power warped modern medicine, and why decentralization may be the only fix.
In this episode, Marty Bent speaks with Dr. Ahmad Amuse about what he calls “fiat medicine,” arguing that modern healthcare has been structurally corrupted by centralized money, government power, and pharmaceutical incentives. Dr. Amuse claims prescription drugs, particularly statins, are a leading driver of chronic illness and excess deaths, not because of misuse but because of how they are prescribed under captured medical guidelines. He traces the roots of this system to the early 1900s, specifically the Flexner Report and the consolidation of medical education that shut down most non-pharmaceutical schools, eliminating competing healing traditions and narrowing medicine to pill-based symptom suppression. Throughout the conversation, he explains how insurance, hospital systems, and regulatory bodies reinforce one another, creating a system where doctors are legally incentivized to follow guidelines tied to pharma funding rather than individualized patient care. The discussion expands into preventative health, emphasizing nutrition, sunlight, circadian rhythm, sleep, and lifestyle as foundational to health, while criticizing synthetic “fixes” like statins, GLP-1 drugs, and rapid-deployment vaccines for ignoring long-term consequences. Finally, Dr. Amuse outlines why decentralization, direct primary care, free-market research, and a Bitcoin standard, could realign incentives, restore medical autonomy, and allow both doctors and patients to opt out of a failing, overburdened system.
“Prescription drugs are the third leading cause of death in the United States.”
“Cholesterol is essential for life, yet we aggressively suppress it with statins.”
“Doctors aren’t allowed to practice medicine anymore, they’re allowed to follow guidelines.”
“If I follow the guidelines and harm you, I’m protected. If I don’t and you get sick, I’m liable.”
“Health doesn’t come from pills; it comes from daily choices.”
“Hospitals today are some of the most toxic environments a sick person can be in.”
“This system can’t be fixed without decentralization, financial and medical.”
This conversation presents a sweeping critique of modern healthcare, framing it as a system shaped less by patient outcomes and more by centralized incentives, legal protections, and pharmaceutical profit. Dr. Amuse argues that real reform will not come from better regulation or larger institutions, but from decentralization: doctors reclaiming autonomy through direct care models, patients prioritizing preventative health rooted in lifestyle, and a monetary shift that removes the financial engine enabling systemic capture. Whether one agrees fully or not, the episode challenges listeners to question long-held assumptions about medicine, authority, and health, and to consider how deeply incentives shape the care we receive.
0:00 - Intro
0:32 - History of fiat medicine
11:06 - Nutritional preventative healthcare
15:21 - CrowdHealth & Bitkey
17:12 - Obamacare vicious cycle
21:04 - Doctors disengaging & universal healthcare
28:38 - Hospital design & light
40:10 - SLNT & Obscura
42:17 - Drug approval
47:59 - RFK
50:43 - living healthy
1:00:52 - Health savings
(00:00) Prescription drugs are the third leading cause of death in the United States these days. >> Medications prescribed the way they should be prescribed are absolutely lethal. The most prescribed medication in history are statins. These are absolutely detrimental to the body. Flexner went around the entire country looking at medical schools and he eventually decided that all medical schools that are not teaching pharmaceutical based medicine need to be shut down.
(00:24) More than 60% of US medical schools were were shut down in the early 1900s. Dr. Ahmad Amuse, welcome to the show. >> Thanks, Marty. Thank you for having me. >> Uh, like I was saying, this is going to be a good followup to the previous episode with Jessica Rose and and Kevin McCernon where we really talked about the corruption of the peerreview system within medicine, uh, which is just one area of it.
(00:55) you're a practicing doctor and you've been writing a lot and talking a lot about fiat medicine. So I think maybe we'll just start there, jump right into it. Fiat medicine, it's your term for what you think is wrong with healthcare. Let's just walk through the thesis. How does fiat money specifically corrupt medicine at the root level and where do you see it most visibly uh dayto-day? >> Yeah. Uh so thanks for the introduction.
(01:21) uh medicine the way it is right now is not how medicine was practiced 100 years ago. Things are very different and uh things are different in a in a bad way and in a monopolistic way where pharmaceutical companies have taken over uh the practice of medicine. And this was not uh possible without big government, without the Federal Reserve that is funding all of this and allowing certain institutions to take over medicine and dictate what how doctors get to practice.
(02:01) And so all of these problems started in the early 1900s. So in 1903, the American Medical Association was formed. And the purpose of the American Medical Association was to standardize the practice of medicine which sounds great on paper that you know oh we want all doctors to practice the same way so that there are no uh snake oil salesmen that everyone's up to uh up to a certain expectation.
(02:27) But what actually happened is only pharmaceutical medicine was allowed to prosper. Only far medical schools teaching pharmaceutical medicine were allowed to continue their practice and everything else was shut down. And this is why we live in a current state where all other healing modalities are suppressed and the only cure for anything is a pill.
(02:55) And I saw you were tweeting earlier today or earlier this week, prescription drugs are the third leading cause of death in the United States these days. >> Correct. I mean, this is like this is such a crazy statistic that you know if if we live in actually a honest world, everyone would be jumping on this and trying to figure out why.
(03:16) But this is like medications prescribed the way they should be prescribed are absolutely lethal. They lead to side effects. They lead to uh dysfunction in the body. They lead you in order to need other medications and then these medications interact with each other. And you know, so many of the problems that I see with patients are simply because of the medications that they're taking.
(03:43) And it's it's just pharmaceutical companies have such a huge uh propaganda and huge uh huge control about over this entire field that nobody discusses this. >> Can you talk about some of the some like hard examples of the side effects really being? >> Yeah. No, I mean the the most prescribed medication in history are statins or cholesterol-lowering medications and these are absolutely detrimental to the body because cholesterol is essential for all important functions in the body.
(04:18) So cholesterol is an essential fat that's needed to regenerate your cell membranes, regenerate your neurons in your brains, make hormones. It's it needs it's needed for the immune system function and this medication drops cholesterol levels significantly leading to disastrous consequences throughout the body.
(04:41) So the way it's done is studies looking at statins only follow patients for 5 years maximum. Some of them are done for even just only months. They see that it lowers the cholesterol level and that necessarily okay. So that is good for your heart and the product goes on the market. But if someone gets a disease, often serious ones 10 years from now, nobody connects it to the statin because there's there's no profit there.
(05:09) Uh honest researchers that make these connections and put that data out there, their material is not getting published. Journals are not going to accept their papers. And that's because all these journals are funded by pharmaceutical uh the pharmaceutical industry. >> Yeah. And if you go listen uh not you but anybody listening to that should go listen to the episode with Jessica and Kevin because we dive deep into that pub pier and just the whole uh research complex and and how it actually works peer review and all of that is
(05:44) completely politicized and corrupted with money. But I I think let's take a trip down memory lane. Just talk about the history of this because this has been building for I think over a century. And you you talk a lot about the Flexner report and Rockefeller's influence specifically. What's the the five minute sort of overview of that seed that was planted over a century ago? >> Yeah.
(06:11) So you know when you the definition of a doctor back in the 1800s was there were many kinds of doctors. So there were what we call uh alopathic doctors which is the traditional which is the mainstream now western sort of medicine which works on suppressing symptoms suppressing works on uh mostly getting rid of symptoms that's how things are treated but there are also other healing modalities that have actually have a much longer history uh of being practiced all over the world.
(06:42) This is includes homeopathy which aims to treat things uh like treat things naturally aim to uh understand the symptoms and give a treatment that's complimentary to that to help the body recover on its own. Also osteopaths and chiropractors were much more respected back then and there were also naturopaths which aim to heal people using just natural remedies, herbal remedies.
(07:16) So back then someone who got sick would go to any one of these doctors. You had the choice. If you thought that western medicine was better for you, if you thought the pill was better for you, you could go and do that. Then in 1903 the American Medical Association was formed in order to standardize the practice of medicine. And then in 1910 they hired someone by the name of Abraham Flexner who wasn't really a doctor but they hired him with the task of we need to revamp and uh improve all of medical education in in the US. So Flexner went around the
(07:57) entire country looking at medical schools and he eventually decided that all medical schools that are not teaching pharmaceutical-based medicine need to be shut down. So all of these naturopathic medical school, osteopathic medical schools, all of these were shut down. So more than 60% of US medical schools were were shut down in the early 1900s.
(08:20) Flexner report Flexner had strong ties to the pharmaceutical industry and he was heavily funded also by the Rockefeller Foundation where the Rockefeller foundation also was had heavy uh Rockefeller's pharmaceutical products were used were turned into pharmaceutical drugs. So there was a lot of benefit for them to push everyone to push everyone to be on pills.
(08:50) Whether Rockefeller himself was aware of this is not clear because uh basically at a certain point his foundation was just based on money he has given before and other people were running it. So I I don't want to throw Rockefeller under the the the train but uh definitely his foundation had a huge part to play in this.
(09:11) And so 60% of US medical schools were shut down. uh only doctors practicing pushing pills were allowed to prosper. And this is the disastrous system that we live in right now where nobody looks at lifestyle, nobody looks at natural treatments, nobody looks at natural things that have been used for hundreds of years. The only cure is just a pill.
(09:37) >> Yeah. And I I've experienced well we have experienced this in in our family. I mean I've always been skeptical of the medical industrial complex but postcoid my wife um her skepticism increased significantly as well. And I mean I feel fine sharing this. I know she's comfortable sharing it cuz I think uh we've talked to many other couples who have had troubles.
(10:02) But we had trouble conceiving our third child between um after our second and um she went to doctors, wanted to push pills and do some injections and stuff and she sort of faded that. We went the naturopathy way and after about 6 months of really fixing her diet and um focusing on some herbalities, uh we we were able to conceive and have our third child.
(10:27) something we experience firsthand that this stuff does work >> 100% and there's just hundreds and hundreds of years of knowledge about all these things and overnight with the Flexner report all of that was suppressed and currently you know anyone who discusses uh natural ways of treatment is just simply labeled as a quack and uh we've lost all of that knowledge unfortunately and it it it's really really frustrating for me because I've worked so hard to become a doctor and I've studied so long.
(10:59) I I did 11 years of training in order to become a doctor and I had to start from scratch to to learn all these things >> and I mean this is pretty well known now but it's you look at the way that doctors are taught through the university system uh in the curriculum that's put before them and nutrition is basically an overthought uh an afterthought.
(11:24) You maybe have one class on it and it's not even really taken seriously. But this whole idea of preventative health care particularly via good nutrition is completely overlooked. It's all pills and remedies, synthetic remedies. Yeah, I had 40 40 minutes one lecture that's 40 minutes long of uh nutritional education my entire medical career and it was actually only they just taught us how to dose insulin based on what patients ate.
(11:56) That's all the nutritional education that I uh that I've ever gotten. And now having sort of re-educated yourself, how how much nutritional curriculum would you recommend >> for doctors? Like how important is is that aspect of of health? >> It's it's extremely important. And uh it's it's it's quite crazy to live in a world where doctors are tend to be some of the unhealthiest people you meet.
(12:23) And I have firsthand experience with this because I I see them every day, my fellow physicians. And they just live in a in a in a plane where your daily choices don't matter. You know, disease is this thing that comes on you because of genetics, because of luck. And if you get sick, then you need pills.
(12:46) There's nothing you can do to prevent it. And your daily choices don't just don't matter. And this is the fundamental I issue that needs to be addressed with any medical education that's going to be successful, which is lifestyle matters. Your day-to-day choices matter. And you know, my my co-workers think that I'm just crazy because I think about these things.
(13:13) They they still haven't realized that. No, no, this is what actually works. And >> they're just so completely brainwashed by the system that they have no realization about how important this stuff is. >> No. And and I guess let's dive deeper into the incentives too because I I think if somebody in the turn of the 20th century 1900 were to see what the health care system looked like today, they'd be completely petrified at the state of of healthcare.
(13:47) And hopefully conversely we can look back 50 100 years uh it can be 2075 2100 and look back and be and recognize like oh that anomalous period between 1913 and the mid 21st century was completely insane. And I think both people in the past and in the future will look at the financial incentives um and the corruption that that money has introduced to the medical system specifically and pinpoint that as the core problem at the root of of this issue is just the in the monetary incentives that exist to push bills.
(14:28) >> Yes. uh if if readers are interested in actually digging through the weeds of who actually led to this entire system being the way it is very helpful book is called murder by injection by Eustus Mullins and he is the same person that wrote the secrets of the Federal Reserve and it's quite fascinating to see the same characters who were involved in creating the Federal Reserve either them directly or their cousins or their best friends were also involved in creating the medical system.
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(17:21) Obviously, a big pharma with the incentive to get the pills pushed because they're going to make a ton of money. Um, but now you have the hospital systems um which are becoming highly centralized. Uh, and then paired with the hospital systems, you have big insurance and then paired with big insurance now you have the federal government stepping in.
(17:42) um or at least for the last uh 12 years with uh Obamacare, the American Care Act uh here in the United States specifically. And they all sort of have this symbiotic relationship where um they're all trying to basically grift and make things as expensive and least effective as possible so they can uh increase their bottom line.
(18:04) >> Yes. And probably I mean the most centralized aspect about this is the issue of medical guidelines. So you know a physician nowadays can't just go and practice medicine the way they like. So you know there's a lot of information out there about what's the best thing to do for a patient. So uh certain societies started forming let's say the American college of cardiology or the American family physicians associations etc to try and create guidelines or just easier summaries for physicians to follow and uh which sounds great on paper you
(18:46) know we're just going to simplify it so that not every physician has to read every paper out there. There's actually an estimate that in primary care alone around 1,500 papers a day are published. So it's impossible for a physician to just read all of these every day. And so these guidelines were written there to kind of streamline the process.
(19:09) But what is the crazy thing about this is all these societies that write the guidelines are heavily funded by pharmaceutical industry. It' be a society of like nine doctors and eight of them would have ties to pharmaceutical industry. They pay them to go to on vacation. They give them research grants.
(19:32) They uh they give them gifts frequently. And so all of these guidelines are of course favor favored to certain medications and usually expensive medications rather than generics that can be cheaper and help people save. And then these guidelines are actually used to uh go after physicians. So if you're not following the guidelines, if you are not following what the pharmaceutical company wants you to do, you're at risk of losing your license.
(20:02) You are medically liable if you practice something at that wasn't following the guidelines. You're at risk of going to jail. Uh so say say someone has high cholesterol and I believe that high cholesterol is is not bad. High cholesterol is actually good for you. If I don't put them on a statin and they get a heart attack which high cholesterol is not a link to heart heart attacks I am legally liable if they get that heart attack.
(20:34) However, if I do put them on statins and the statins themselves actually increase inflammation in the body and could lead to heart attacks and they do get a heart attack, then I'm not legally liable because I follow the guidelines. So, it's it's absolutely insane. It's just completely captured and nobody can see past this insanity without if you dare speak against this, you're going to be ostracized.
(20:56) You're going to be called a quack and uh you're just not going to be heard and you're not going to get published. And that's how the system maintains itself. >> Yeah. I think there's a massive cognitive dissonance problem within the the medical industry cuz everybody's a lot of people are making a lot of money and they've spent a lot of time or there's also a sunk cost fallacy where you spent a lot of time uh and money on your education and your residency and your career and you don't want to believe that you went through this system that is uh not what you
(21:29) believe it is actually at the end of the day but with that being said again postcoid I I do I think there has been somewhat of an awakening within the medical field. At least I've had a number of of doctors that have come on the show that have left the sort of centralized medical system, started their own direct primary care practices and um marketing like, hey, I'm not part of the system.
(21:55) I'm going direct to the patient. Are you optimistic that there are more people within your field beginning to recognize this and sort of branch off and try to do things different way? >> Yeah, I mean every physician knows that something's wrong. >> You know, they're help they're working hard. They're trying to get people healthy, but nothing's working and people just keep getting sicker and the system is overburdened and everybody's overworked.
(22:19) Everybody knows that. What is causing it? very very few people are starting to realize this but I think more and more people are starting to so it is promising and we are grateful that there's an internet where you can just post random things and you can learn so much by just going online and it's really helping a lot of people yeah and you mentioned there the system sort of overburdened right now I think a big driver of that is the the insurance industry and this push towards universal free health care. And I think this ties
(22:58) back to sort of money corrupting it. You need price signals in a market and this idea of universal healthcare while it sounds good on paper. uh if you're a fifth grader or an ignorant um adult who doesn't understand economics and people really play to the uh the heartstrings and the empathetic side of individuals not realizing that hey medicine and the service that doctors offer um is a a service that should be priced and there should be pricing signals in the market and this push for universal healthcare is completely
(23:37) uh corrupting that price signal and therefore overburning the system because priorities aren't able to be able the opportunity cost doesn't exist and so you don't know what to actually focus on. >> Yeah, 100%. I mean an example I like to illustrate so that people understand this is if a random 70-year-old's knees start to hurt him, it's fine.
(23:59) You know, he could run it off. He could take some pain medications and rest for a week and then he'll be fine. It's quite different than if LeBron James's knee starts to hurt him. So there's there's no such thing as healthcare for everyone. It all depends on the context. It all depends on what does what do you want out of your knee? What do you want out of your eyes? What do you want out of your back? And so who gets to decide whether the 70-year-old who whose knee hurt them do should they get an MRI for their knee?
(24:33) If you leave it up to the to the 70-year-old, of course, he wants an MRI of his knee because it's free. LeBron James, his knee means a lot to them to him. He he's he's willing to pay for an EMRI because because it's just a wide spectrum of how much you can investigate everything and how much work up you're going to do for everything and how much treatment you know the only way to give universal healthcare is to just have a lot of governing bodies that are deciding oh does this patient uh deserve an MRI or not does the 70-year-old
(25:06) deserve an MRI or should we give it to prioritize it to LeBron James instead and once you do that Then you have an entire industry that's just there as a third party. They're just trying to decide allocate resources to allocate healthcare resources. And this is how you end up with Canada where you have to work.
(25:28) we have to wait for 9 months in order to get an MRI system is just, you know, it has to go to someone who's going to approve it and then you're going to have to wait in line and and it's just once you separate the price signals, when you separate it from the free market, there's no way that that's going to work. Then you're just this is just communism.
(25:47) And so do you think the solution to this is more doctors breaking off to this direct primary care? Cuz that's what we've been using in my family. We've opted out of health insurance. We we use crowd health and then we supplement that with direct primary care doctors and um I find that the experience is far superior than the sort of insurance uh networks of hospitals and pediatricians and um physicians that you're thrown into >> 100%.
(26:19) I mean we doctors are human beings like if you are interacting with people and offering services that want them that and you want to encourage them to come back so that they bring you bring you more money then the services we offer are going to be a lot better. working in a system where everyone is insured and you're going to have to give give everything to anyone.
(26:43) There's just no incentive for us to uh to perform better. And uh you know that's why doctors are burnt out. There's no incentive. They they are uh they're just working you know working a 9 to5. They don't really care about their patients. the their pay is not is not affected by how they treat their patients, but all of the all doctors that have branched out of this system are so much happier and their patients are so much happier.
(27:15) Do you um so what are like the long term? Do you do you think the medical system will get fixed internally? Um basically have people recognize like oh we need to decentralize this or do you think it'll be market forces like do you think a Bitcoin standard is needed to fix the system from scratch? >> Yeah, I think I think the system the way it is right now is going to collapse.
(27:39) uh how bad it's going to get before it collapses. Like are people going to be dying outside of hospitals because there are no empty beds or uh are are hospitals not are going to run out of equipment, basic equipment to treat people? It's certainly possible. How hospitals are right now? That's kind of the direction we're heading.
(28:00) So I there's no hospital in the US right now that's not over on over capacity. There are people in the hallways. People wait in the emergency room for 2 days before they get a bed upstairs. You wait 20 hours before being seen in the emergency room. So these are all just indications of you know imminent collapse.
(28:19) Uh whether whether the system understands that it needs to go back to a free market standard before it collapses. Hopefully that happens. But and it also depends on how soon the entire world is just going to shift to Bitcoin standard and we get rid of all this mess. >> A little tangental, but I think it's all connected.
(28:42) And I talked to your brother about this too cuz it is crazy if you just look at a hospital like the architecture of it, the the physical landscape of it, the fluorescent lights, the beeping noises. They're I mean you spend a lot of time in these places. I imagine they're not really uh they don't really engender a sense of uh inspiration or they're very sterile and uninspiring and not a place that you want to be.
(29:10) And whereas hospitals used to be these like grand buildings with tall windows, natural light and um how much of the the physical sort of um landscape of the modern hospital uh has been corrupted by this too and and is the form factor of a hospital this day detrimental to people's health? >> Yeah, I mean I I uh hospitals are probably the the most toxic place to be in currently in the world.
(29:39) Like you are better off if if you can just heal yourself by staying in your bed. You're probably better off fighting this whatever you have than going to the hospital. If you can afford if it's not serious enough that you actually need what's in the hospital. I always say like for my older patients, it's one thing for them to get over like whatever infection they're going through or whatever health condition.
(30:04) It's another thing for them to to survive the hospital stay because you're under fake light. Uh you're not getting any care or attention because all the nurses are overworked and all the doctors are overworked. Uh the food is uh toxic. It's beeping. You can't sleep well. It's it's really there's a term called delirium which is basically confusion that happens with older people and it's because you know they go to this place when they're sick and they can't sleep and the fake lights are on all night so they don't they they lose their
(30:42) circadian rhythm. don't know when it's day or when it's night and they end up just confused and delirious and your risk. There's a lot of people that die because of this because the body just has no connection to reality anymore and it's it's really scary and uh yeah, hospitals are a toxic place. >> Do you think we need to rebuild them from scratch? like what what would if you were handed a handed a fascist authority over the hospital system and you were able to rebuild the physical buildings where we're sending people
(31:23) when they get sick. What would they look like? >> I mean, yeah. Again, the the entire why hospitals are so toxic is because nobody in the medical field thinks that the food that you eat or the lights that you're under or you know the quality of your sleep is going to affect the way you heal.
(31:43) You know, it's just if we give you these meds, things will magically improve and you'll get out of here and things will be magical. That's what textbooks teach you. That's what pharmaceutical industry wants you to believe. Once we get to the point where we realize that all of these things are very important, then yes, you don't want it to be filled with blue fluorescent light all the time.
(32:04) Have natural lights in from windows. Use incandescent bulbs. Minimize artificial light. That's also good. That's all good. Minimize the devices. So all these patients, they're hooked on to like heart monitors when they come in. And this is all just, you know, emitting electromagnetic frequencies directly into their bodies the moment they walk in. That's also not great.
(32:28) And then the food, you know, they're given like typical American cafeteria food, you know, chicken fingers and fries. And it's it's the the goal is to, you know, minimize the cost of how much this meal costs the hospital. But it's it's it's toxic to this patient. And it's all it's all heart healthy. So, they use vegetable seed oils and it's all low-fat dairy and lowfat meat and and it's it's insane. It's insane. It's funny.
(32:56) And it wasn't like that cuz my mom and my aunts and my mother-in-law, my wife and I, we were born in the same hospital um late ' 80s, early 90s, and our moms talked finally about the uh the steak dinners. They were given steak and lobster after uh after they gave birth to us. and was like, "Oh, you guys are getting steak and lobster.
(33:16) " We got like OJ in like a little plastic cup and some chicken fingers like and French fries. I was like, for all three of our child births, I would just leave the hospital and go find good, healthy food and bring it back. It wasn't even worth taking the slop that they were offering you. >> Yeah, it's uh it's [ __ ] and it's bad for you.
(33:40) >> Well, you you mentioned light, too. That's another thing. So again, again, postco, my wife has really leaned into the uh natural solutions. So she's changed all the light bulbs in our house to incandescent, and I I think it's definitely had an effect on um particularly like the the boys uh our sons.
(33:59) Like you can notice that they're they're much calmer because they're not subjected to these LED flashing lights all the time. Like talking about preventative care, obviously diet is heavy but a heavy focus, but how much is like natural light and um avoiding LED um fluorescent lighting and other things just getting out walk. It's exercise generally.
(34:23) >> Yeah, it's it's 100% it's so important and you know some people argue that the light is even more important than the diet. uh a good way to understand this is in the cell itself this is not a very very uh known theory it's not not very well known but what the reality is in your cells you don't actually directly use food to make energy you actually use light to make energy food you use in order to re regenerate the cells so make cell membranes make channels make proteins and fats in order to regenerate your body. But
(35:04) how your cell is actually powered is from the light that you're exposed to. This includes visible and invisible light. So the lights work on your cells work on this molecule called melanin which is light sensitive. And melanin uh splits water creating an electric current and this is the electric current that powers your entire body.
(35:31) The problem with blue LED bulbs, which were only started in the 21st century, is that they only emit a very narrow spectrum of light that does not allow this process to happen efficiently. So, you're not splitting water efficiently. You're not uh you're not powering your cells as the way you should. And this could be the reason why we all the the explosion of disease that we've seen over the last 20 years because we all living under fake artificial light.
(36:08) We don't go out as much and we're we're all definitely sun deficient. >> It is crazy to think that and it's even crazier to think about the Biden administration tried to ban incandescent lights because it hurts hurts the climate. >> Exactly. the CL the clim we got to worry about the climate so we can't use good lights and how like I mean putting the tin foil hat on like how much of that is pure virtue signaling for the climate versus they know that they are going to sort of disrupt the sort of natural health of of individuals and by
(36:45) extension their psychology make them more manic and uh depressed and more impressionable. Is there nefarious intentions behind it or is it simply just laring um for the for the environment? >> I haven't read the direct data on this but I I follow Dr. Jack Cruz intensely. He uh he is very well verssed with this topic and he says that DARPA basically has data that shows that blue light is able to control people by destroying their dopamine levels.
(37:22) And that's why uh blue light is just become uh prevalent everywhere. And uh I don't know what the intentions are. Dr. Cruz argues that it's it's definitely uh preconceived and it's definitely intentional. I know what the repercussions are and the repercussions are pretty bad. >> Yeah. Speaking of repercussions too, it seems like at least in mainstream medicine and now even in the tech sector or Silicon Valley, the solutions to the systemic health issues that exist in the United States and broadly in other parts of the world is to create these
(38:02) synthetic drugs that um that really help you get back to a better state. the GLP1s I think being the most popular over the last um the last few years goi and others like them what what do you what do you think of this this trend this like oh we can just manufacture health via these GLP1s and peptides >> again it's just faulty faulty think thinking of this is like the the complete fiat way of thinking about health which is Health comes from something outside of me.
(38:41) Health is just if if I accumulate the correct series of pills, peptides, vitamins, then that's going to give me health. And it's just a completely fiat idea that's only started in the 20th century. It's it's the same as people thinking that, you know, inflation is necessary. It's that systemic. It's just completely false and everything built on top of it is false.
(39:07) The the the reality is health starts from your daily choices. Every every everything you're eating, the light you're exposed to, every how you move, these this is what makes you healthy. And this is what people need to be putting all this effort on. problem is is that we live in a fiat world where everybody has such a high time preference that nobody is willing to look into the future, look into things that take some time to give them some benefit.
(39:37) So nobody's looking into their lifestyle. Everybody's just looking for the easy fix. And there's a lot of people that are just feeding into it. You know, Brian Johnson tells you that the key for him to live infinitely is to take 100 supplements a day. And there are people that believe that. They they want to believe that because it's an easier fix than no, it's just look at your fridge, look at your lifestyle, look at how stressed you are, look at how you treat the people around you.
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(42:37) uh the COVID vaccine specifically and that was another thing. So the COVID vaccine I was immediately skeptical because of Operation Warp Speeds. They're like, "Hey, we're going to get this vaccine out in 9 months." And everything up until that point that I've learned about vaccines and the safety of vaccines was like they need to be tested for more than a decade before you can uh deploy them to to the masses.
(43:01) And when they were like, "All right, we're going to get this at 9 months." I was immediately like, "Okay, based off of everything I've learned about vaccine safety up until this point in my life, it this completely flies in the face of what we're supposed to be doing. So, I'm going to avoid it." Um, then you have others that didn't and we're we're not only didn't avoid it, but we're championing it and going further in some cases and saying that you were a monster if you didn't get it yourself.
(43:28) uh as you were protecting uh your fellow citizen. Uh and we're quickly learning uh a few years later that there are pretty terrible side effects to this increases in excess deaths, turbo cancers, uh heart issues. Um and similar to GLP1s and I think the early data is showing that there's problems with this too like you don't know how this is going to to your point about high time preference very high time high preference particularly because we don't have enough data to know what the long-term ramifications of this and going back to
(44:00) what you were saying earlier about statins. It's pretty clear to me that we can see something very similar play out with VL1s in terms of the the long-term effect on individual health. Yeah, the pharmaceutical industry is not interested in the long-term consequences. This is just uh it's up to you to deal with them.
(44:24) And uh it's it's the biggest scam uh how these drugs are are allowed into the market without in intensive testing. And the people who are approving these drugs, people that work in the FDA, they're known that once they quit their FDA jobs, they get very expensive, very well-paying jobs in these pharmaceutical companies.
(44:49) And there's a revolving door between the FDA and pharmaceutical companies. So, you can't trust the people whose job is to determine the safety of these uh uh of these drugs. The the classic leftist argument is that what we need to do is oh we need just stronger government that's not corrupt and we need people to you know we need to make sure that uh the centralized authority is has no relationship with pharma etc.
(45:18) That is just you're just adding more power to the government and therefore you're making them a a more lucrative target for corruption. What actually needs to happen is we remove all the suppression of alternative medicine so that anyone who has a solution that they think works can put it out there and let the free market come up with ways to test these medications.
(45:44) So it doesn't have to be the FDA that approves them. What if there are private societies that start to run experiments on these drugs? And if you are interested in taking a GLP1, you you will probably be uh willing to pay some money to this private society to test it for you before. And you know that this society is not biased.
(46:08) They are uh they're not government employees. You know that they're not corrupt and they have to put their financial ties out there. Like there are so many ways we can just optimize the system by having government get their hands off it. And this is what hopefully life on a Bitcoin standard would look like and u the future is exciting once we get to that point. Yeah.
(46:33) I mean you think of Scott Gotautle going from the FDA to the board of Fizer. Then he's on CNBC and all the talking head shows really pushing it and advocating like he literally went from the FDA too. He was Fiser's representative on a bunch of these talking head shows and >> very few people obviously yourself, myself and others um that are like-minded were like this is an obvious conflict of interest here like how how is this even possible? But it is the the status quo of how this revolving door works.
(47:09) the the entire uh Purdue pharma and Oxycontton and what led to the opioid epidemic in the US which has killed you know upward of 200,000 people at least uh all of this the drug was approved by one person in the FDA who after he finished his role in the FDA got a job at Purdue Pharma where he was getting around $350,000 a This entire thing was just because this someone made a few million dollars.
(47:43) That's it. This is how powerful, how easily corruptible the system is. And when you have an organization that's as big as FDA, you're at risk of just the system being captured. And this is the system we live in right now. >> Yeah. I mean, speaking of that, obviously there was this big push for MAHA, RFK getting into Health and Human Services, and seems like they're trying to shake things up at FDA, but what's your perspective? Are they um making any progress? Is it they just being consumed by the the centralized beast? Are we
(48:22) moving in the right direction? I >> mean, it's clear that he's causing some ripples. Uh it's not a it's not as much change as I would have liked, but it's clear that he's fighting a huge beast that is not easy to shake off. >> But him uh now that the hepatitis B vaccine is off the schedule, that's huge.
(48:46) And just one thing, one small change can lead people to start questioning. And this is what we need. It's the beast is just so big that it's very difficult for him to change everything. But I think even though he has had to water down his message a lot, he is causing chump changes. So that's promising. But again, I believe that ultimately the solution is not going to come from the government the way we imagine it.
(49:11) The the solution is going to come once we make this government just a lot weaker than it is right now. >> Yeah. Well, in the interim, I mean, I think we've talked a lot about sort of doctors branching off going direct primary care, but what advice would you give to someone who's frustrated with their current doctor, um, doesn't know how to find a physician? Like, what would you how would you advise the consumer of healthcare to contribute to the fixing of this problem? Yeah, I mean if if you don't have any doctors in your community that you trust, direct primary
(49:42) care doctors that are less heavy on pushing pills or uh I think online you you find a lot of good resources. So you can you can research things a lot and don't rely on just Google and chat GPT to tell you what's what actually works because they base their data on you know the most popular uh health websites which are all pharmaceutical funded or based are are from a big hospital.
(50:14) So do your own research. The best way I recommend is try and find people who you trust what they say. You trust their opinions on medicine. Follow them. See what accounts they follow. See what sort of things they recommend. And I think more and more doctors are going to start offering online services that you can get health advice, you can get recommendations online.
(50:41) And I think people should start actively looking for that. And then beyond that, um, before they even need to get to a doctor, if they hear what you're saying, they're like, "Okay, I need to focus more on preventative health care, get my lifestyle in order, improve my lifestyle, improve my health." What are sort of the lowest hanging fruits, first steps that you recommend people take? Yeah.
(51:05) So I mean the first thing to know is that uh diet is the cornerstone of health and uh do we have time to go into a bit more details of diet or do you want me just >> Yes. Yeah, we have plenty of time. Yeah. >> Great. So yeah, I mean the the there's a lot of comp there's a lot of confusing information out there about what the ideal human diet is and there's a lot of extreme diets that might not be effective for everyone.
(51:33) What I tell people is the the most helpful resource I found to understand diet is the work of this 10 dentist called Western Price. So Western Price was this dentist in the early 1900s. That was the time when vegan and vegetarian diets were starting to get popular and everyone thought that a vegetarian diet is the answer to is the ultimate human diet.
(51:58) So Western Price what he did he actually traveled the world going to tribes that haven't been touched by industrialization. These tribes you know had their uh their their local diets that have has haven't changed in hundreds or thousands of years. And so he went and saw what these people ate. And what he found is that these people tended to be very healthy because they haven't been touched by processed food yet.
(52:27) And what all these tribes had in common is that they all had an animal-based diet. So the cornerstone of their diet was animal meat and fat and whatever else grows in the environment locally. So he went there trying to prove that a vegetarian diet is healthy. But what actually found is the opposite is that meat, animal meat and fat were always uh appreciated by these older societies.
(52:55) So I think the ideal human diet should be built around uh animal protein and fat. Uh and this should be the cornerstone of your diet. It should be there in every meal that you eat. If a meal doesn't have animal protein or fat, then it's not a meal. And whatever you eat on the side, I don't recommend that. I don't think a carnivore diet is for everyone.
(53:20) I don't think a keto diet is for everyone. But I think what's really helpful is to eat whatever glow grows locally in your environment. So if you live in the east coast of the United States, you're not going to have pineapples in December. You're not going to have mangoes in December. And funnily enough is that your metabolism it is affected by the light that you're exposed to.
(53:45) So you are less able to handle the sugars from this pineapple or uh in in December versus if you get it in the summer. So eat whatever grows locally in your environment. And of course avoid anything that's processed, anything that comes from a factory. This I think is the cornerstone of a healthy diet. And if people do that then you've gotten 80% of the uh benefit with only 20% of the work.
(54:12) If you want to complicate things further, you can. But this is just a very good starting point. No, >> it is crazy how eating local how how humans are connected to their locality. And the the one example that I always have fun telling people that when we moved to Texas and cedar fever was a real thing for me. uh cedar fever uh for the first few months and then I had somebody tell me like, "Hey, you need to go find some raw local honey and eat that so that you're sort of getting exposed to these these pollins um and incorporating them into your body." And
(54:46) that's exactly what I did. And I didn't have cedar fever for the rest of my the time I was living in Austin. And it's it's crazy how something as simple as that can contribute to to better health. >> Yeah, it's it's quite simple. The the there's a lot of confusing information about diet, but I think that's a great way to start.
(55:12) Eat from a local farmers market. Whatever grows there is whatever is local and get a good butcher and you are solving 90% of the problems. Another very important thing about preventive health is the light that you're exposed to. So most of us these days are not getting enough sunlight. You want to try and be outside every day.
(55:35) Uh even if it's cloudy, try and go outside. You're still getting uh uh healthy rays of sunlight coming to your body. Even if your your body is entirely covered up, even if your just your eyes being exposed to the sun is good. What I recommend for people is aim for at least 10 minutes of morning sunlight before it's 10:00 a.m.
(55:57) So go outside 10 minutes looking in the general direction of the sun. That's just going to up upgrade your metabolism for the entire day. Start ramp up your metabolism and it's going to make you feel so much better for the rest of the day. If you if you are in a environment where you're under artificial light a lot whether it's your office etc try and go outside and take frequent breaks.
(56:21) So go outside at noon again and then go again in the afternoon. This being outside in the sun reconnects uh uh you you your circadian rhythm to to the sun uh recalc calibrates it and this uh fixes all your hormones and neurotransmitters for for that day. And speaking of circadian rhythm, it's funny because that when we were doing a natural, we're going the natural path to get my wife's um body more in sync in preparation for her third child.
(56:55) That was the the first advice she got from her doctor was, "Hey, go outside before 10:00 a.m. and make sure you're getting sunlight, particularly before 10:00 a.m., but bring this cuz it kicks off your circadian rhythm, your metabolism, get your neurotransmitters firing and um but on this point of circadian rhythm, how important is sleep to all this as well?" Sleep is very important and uh what people don't realize is that sleep is the most important uh regenerative phase in your body to try and get rid of inflammation to get rid of toxicity to
(57:29) get rid of free radicals. And even if people sleep 7 hours at night and wake up refreshed there are still levels you can improve your sleep better. And I think the major thing disturbing our sleep these days is artificial light exposure after sunset. So this is a very very important and it's a low yield fruit for anyone who's trying to uh improve their health is after sunset you want to limit the amount of artificial light you're exposed to.
(58:03) So blue LED bulbs are the worst. Try and replace them with either candle light or incandescent bulbs. But even with incandescent, you want to try and minimize the light that you're exposed to because that that fake light that you're exposed to at night disturbs the synthesis of melatonin in your body. And melatonin is important not only to make you sleep, but it also has a lot of important regenerative properties in the body, including anti-cancer and anti-inflammatory properties.
(58:36) So be very conscious of the light that you're exposed to and that will help your sleep significantly. >> Somebody who values the sleep. I need I I can't operate on less than 7 hours which um if I don't get at least 7 hours, I'm I'm pretty thrown off for the for the whole day. And that's um the light. It's something too.
(58:58) It's like I'm looking at a screen here. I've got another uh monitor right to my left here. And it's like something that is anomalous. Maybe not anomalous, but it's just new in the last three decades is like humans, particularly the workforce, most of it, at least white collar work. This is our lives standing in front of these blue light emmitting screens for hours upon hours every day, day in and day out.
(59:24) And then you add the phone to it and you're uh it's like most people never stood a chance. >> Yeah. >> I I don't usually recommend gadgets. I'm not a Brian Johnson kind of figure, but if there's one one gadget that people should invest in, it's blue blocking glasses. So, what these do is they they have red lenses and what they do is that they allow they don't allow the blue spectrum of light to come into your eyes.
(59:54) And it's very important because your circadian rhythm is set on uh based on the uh how much blue light you're exposed to. So you can get the other spectrum of light, but as long as you're not getting that much blue light, uh it still allows your melatonin to continue uh being synthesized. So, what I recommend is after sunset, wear these blue blocking glasses so that even if you're exposed to blue light in your environment, at least your eyes are not getting exposed to them.
(1:00:22) And you're going to notice that the quality of sleep is just so much better once you start using them. >> Yeah, I've got to pick up a pair of those. I typically stay up a little later writing as well. Yeah, I I used to think it was just, you know, just a gadget that's not helpful and because I thought my sleep was very good, >> but once I tried them, my quality of sleep just became so much deeper and so much more refreshing and you feel so much better the next day.
(1:00:50) >> All right, I got to pick these up and throw it on the Christmas list. Um to wrap this up though, really leaning into the Bitcoin standard and how it can help medicine again like what from like a doctor's perspective. So I've talked about this in many different capacities. I know there's um a health services account um companies getting started up like a health savings account company if you want to um basically do a personal sort of health healthc care budget um using Bitcoin over the long term to um basically make sure that you
(1:01:28) can pay for medical expenses because you're saving in a in a money that that is going to increase purchasing power. or I've heard of doctors incorporating it into their um into their practices to make sure that they're able to have a sustainable business. Obviously, health insurance seems like a lowhanging fruit.
(1:01:46) Uh if you have long duration sort of health health cost uh liabilities that that you need to line up, Bitcoin is a perfect longduration asset to pair there. Like where do you see Bitcoin being introduced into the medical system to to help doctors and patients? Yeah, I think it has very important uh uses in in the health space.
(1:02:10) Uh firstly is you know people there have been a lot of doctors that speak up speak out against the system and you know they get repercussions where they their funds are canled their bank accounts are uh confiscated etc. Uh so there there are repercussions on on free speech with people using fiat money. But if doctors that want to speak out start getting paid in Bitcoin, then if the people who like what you're saying, they can just send you Bitcoin directly.
(1:02:42) Doesn't have to there's doesn't have to be a third party that's uh meddling in between. And so that's going to help with doctors speaking out against the system and hopefully people uh getting out of this fiat system. Another aspect of this is one of the main problems with modern medicine these days is that all the small practices are getting taken over by bigger practices, bigger hospital groups, bigger clinics etc.
(1:03:14) And the reason is is because you know small fish can't survive these days. because you need to be big in order to get access to easy credit. So, uh you know when we we live in a debt based society, the more debt that you can get, the the more uh the more you're able to survive inflation. And so all these uh all these groups are getting to taken over by bigger groups because bigger groups have easier access to loans.
(1:03:45) Once we get off this inflationary system, once we get on a Bitcoin standard, then still small doctors can still run their own practices. And I think that's going to be very helpful for their patients. And then finally, the most important part is, you know, people writing medical guidelines, people deciding what needs to be researched, uh people pushing pills on us, they all get their power from this uh big government that's uh all powerful.
(1:04:16) And how is this government so powerful? Because it has access to the money printer and unlimited amounts of money. So once we get rid of this money printer then the system then there's no big enemy that we're fighting anymore and you know uh smaller doctors, smaller clinics uh more uh free research, more free medical guidelines can prosper and that's going to help uh doctors practicing.
(1:04:43) Now, that was one thing um that Jessica, Kevin, and I covered again, this peerreview process and the fact that it's completely centralized. like they they're trying to create like a separate distributed peerreview process and using Bitcoin bounties to get certain papers peer-reviewed like so if you have a priority um or if you're just interested in um in a particular ailment or area of study and you don't want to wait for the centralized peerreview uh uh networks and journals and publishers to look at your work and to take it
(1:05:22) seriously. You just like, okay, let's use this system and we'll use a Bitcoin bounty program to incentivize people to do the research to review uh these papers. And I I think that makes that ton of sense to me. >> Yeah, that's that's where the future is heading. And uh smart people are already starting to realize this.
(1:05:40) They're creating their platforms online. They're getting funding from Bitcoiners. And uh the future is bright. It is bright. It's a It's a white pill. The only pill I like to take here. >> Yes. >> Um uh Ahmad, this has been a pleasure. Where can anybody who's listening find out more about your work, get in contact with you, uh if um if they have questions or um suggestions or if they were inspired, where can people find more about you? >> Yeah, so uh on social media on Instagram and X, I'm at Amus MD. Uh I also uh have
(1:06:18) a free newsletter that people can sign to uh sign up for and abusemd.com and I also offer online consultations for those interested also on my website. Awesome. Well, this has been a pleasure. We'll have to do it again because I think uh there's definitely going to be some change in the field of medicine over the next many years.
(1:06:43) Hopefully positive change. And um we'll love to have you back on to discuss these things as they evolve. >> Great. Thanks, Marty. >> All right. Peace of love, freaks. >> Thank you for listening to this episode of TFTC. If you've made it this far, I imagine you got some value out of the episode.
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