Erin Redwing: July 2026 Is the Portal
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[0:01] Marty Bent: Aaron Aaron, you don't know this, but there's there's a few women in my life that are anticipating this conversation. Actually, my wife is one of them, my sister's another, and then our friend Kelly. Kelly, if you're listening out there, hello. I know you're you're waiting for this episode. We were actually talking about it last night in preparation. Aaron is an astrologer. She's been around Bitcoin for for many years now at this point. I

[0:12] Erin Redwing: Mm-hmm.

[0:31] Marty Bent: one of those males who has a wife and a sister who are deep into astrology and they're always talking about it with each other and then every once in a while my sister will send me a text like, This is you, I'm a Gemini. and I'm I've always been like arm's length, like, Yeah, this is cool and sort of describes me, but not gonna fall too deep down the astrology rabbit hole. But we met in Vegas and had a great conversation at a dinner with a couple of friends and we decided then that you were gonna come on the show and particularly at this point in time, 'cause there's a lot going on in your world. And so I guess starting it, what the hell is astrology? Why should anybody care? And even if you don't care, why should you listen to this episode?

[1:16] Erin Redwing: Yeah, thanks for having me. I there I through a mutual friend I heard about you and he basically was like, if you meet Marty, you have to talk to him because you guys have so much in common and that was like exactly what happened. We just had such a great discussion. And yeah, I think some people are kind of put off by me being an astrologer. I actually call myself a Bitcoin astrologer. That's my Twitter bio. I just kind of like go for it just to get it out there right off the bat. but you know, a lot of people are Pretty ignorant about astrology.

[3:36] Erin Redwing: it also made it very easy for me to learn astrology very quickly because I already knew the motions of planetary objects. And so astrology was basically like I, you know, I had a conversation with someone who kind of sparked my interest, and then I went down the rabbit hole and that ended up becoming what I ended up being called to do. Like I don't work in astronomy anymore. I'm now like a full-time astrologer. so I know like I've done all of the mental sort of like this can't be real, this doesn't make any sense, you know, all of that I've already done to myself, and so I'm used to that from other people.

[4:37] Marty Bent: You can? You can? You don't have to take everything dead serious and and

[4:42] Erin Redwing: instantly like, you know, put up a judgment. yeah, it's it's you know, I cause I think astrology basically opens you up to trying to see the world around you through a deep time perspective. You know, like some of the things we're gonna talk about today, like the astrology of July twenty twenty six, which is part of why we wanted to have this conversation now, is stuff that the last time this happened was six thousand years ago. So like, you know, astrologers are looking back six thousand years ago to try to get clues for what July twenty twenty six is gonna be like. So It's a cool lens and I just invite anyone who's watching that's maybe a little skeptical to just like see if you get anything interesting out of this. 'Cause I certainly did and that's why I've been doing it for eight years now.

[5:24] Marty Bent: Yes, I mean so let's jump into it. Again, we we decided intentionally to wait a couple of months to record because of what's happening in July of twenty twenty six. And before we hit record, you said there's some setup we need to do what's already happened. And so I guess maybe start with the connection to six thousand years ago, what happened then, and then come back to today and what has happened recently and what May we be able to expect next month.

[5:56] Erin Redwing: Totally. So you know, when you look at a lot of people know sun sign astrology, right? That's like you said you're a Gemini. It's it's just based on your birthday. And so the cycle of a sun sign a sun sign or sun cycle is one year. 'Cause that's how long it takes the earth to go around the sun. That's how long it takes the sun to go around the zodiac. so you know, this is kind of fun and interesting, but if you want to look at things like the rise and decline of civilizations or you know, philosophical movements or political movements or The evolution of technology, you really can't look at like a one-year cycle.

[8:14] Erin Redwing: Has not happened for 6,000 years. And you know, these are these are all of the outer planets interacting. So each of them deals with different themes. So Pluto deals with the transformation and death and rebirth of cycles. That's why there's the Empire Rise and Decline 250-year cycle that aligns with Pluto. Neptune deals with spiritual theses or ideas of what's possible. So for example, Neptune ends up having a lot of a lot to do with the Soviet Union or You know, ideas around like we can have like a technocratic civilization and we can organize society this way. Like whenever you get really crazy Neptunian alignments, you often see sort of utopian or idealistic ideas come in of what's possible for humanity.

[10:31] Erin Redwing: The future, they don't want to have kids, you know, they don't want to be a part of this society. versus, you know, I look at Bitcoin as one of these things and the movement behind Bitcoin where, you know, Bitcoin is hope, right? Bitcoin is something that gave a lot of people a path forward to say, okay, maybe technology is not all bad. Maybe there are technological solutions that can emerge that can actually make the world better. Maybe we can have better money, a more fair value system than we've ever had in all of human history. So, you know, I think regardless of whether you're into astrology or not, you know that we're living through very transformative times.

[12:52] Erin Redwing: These are the kind of themes, again, this is like so long ago. It's very, very difficult for us to pull out what might be happening in July. But basically, what we see is very extreme wealth stratification and wealth inequality and the need to verify yourself in order to transact. Those are like two very obvious things that come out and sort of surveillance in general. so, you know, I don't know, I'm sure you have like thoughts on these kind of themes, not from the astrol astrological perspective. So I'm curious. Like what you think of that, or if you see any of that emerging yourself.

[13:25] Marty Bent: I mean, objectively the the first trillionaire was printed last week, so it's hard to deny that that that wealth stratification and dislocation exists. I mean, the K shaped economy has been a a theme on this show for well over a year now. And obviously digital ID is a is a battle that we're on the front lines of as well. I mean literally talked about it right before we hit record here.

[13:51] Erin Redwing: Yeah, I mean, my my sort of take, I will see if Fable Five is back by the time this episode's posted. Like, who knows? But it kind of seems to me like they're trying to just do KYC, right? Isn't that like that's the whole narrative with the foreign nationals and everything? Is they're like, we have this valuable thing that you want, like we have super intelligence that you really want access to because you believe that it's your only path to escape the permanent underclass. And in order to get it, you have to play by our rules, you have to dox yourself, you have to KYC yourself. Like that that's to me seems like the obvious setup, but I don't know I don't know if that's what you guys talked about or if that's like where your mind's going.

[14:25] Marty Bent: Yeah. I mean it seems I think Matt and I were discussing as like y you could see many many reasons for why this happened. Like could simply be the Department of War was pistanthropic because they didn't want to give the military kill decision using their models. You could see it being legitimate, like the models were legitimately trivially jailbroken and systemically put critical systems at systemic risk of vulnerability. You could see it being complete K fob. Maybe they're maybe they're in the background talking to each other like, hey anthropic, we really want this regulatory moat. We want to be one of the few players that's able to actually bring these models to market and then profit from them.

[16:16] Erin Redwing: Yeah, I mean, I think it seems like we're inevitably going towards a high surveillance state. and I think it's interesting, like the concerns on an individual level that you have about surveillance sort of vary person to person. I think a lot of times people just say like surveillance and like, that's so scary. I d I don't want to be watched. And it's like, well, why don't you want to be watched? Or what you what are the actual reasons? And a lot of people would say privacy, right? They want to have the the ability to kind of do whatever it is that they want to do without having to live in this like a perfect a hundred percent like social credit score type of situation where they get punished for not following the rules correctly.

[18:06] Marty Bent: No, it dropped a couple of days ago, didn't it?

[18:08] Erin Redwing: Yeah, it was I it's honestly not like worth seeing in my opinion. It it was technically correct. Like the UFO alien stuff was very in line with what that community is saying. So that part was cool, but so much of the movie revolved around this idea of like, just get the disclosure stuff to the media and put it on the news station and everyone's gonna see it and they're all gonna believe it. And it's like, you know, if you saw CNN being like Aliens are real, you guys. Like, here's a real alien that we have a video of. You'd be like, I guess ratings were low.

[20:23] Erin Redwing: Just because the major forces that be want you to behave a certain way does not mean that you have to just fall in line, right? Like there are things like Bitcoin. You can run your own sovereign AI model and get access to a version of this super intelligence without just being completely beholden to however they want to change it to control your narrative. Like there is an ability to have individual choice here, even if that's not what the majority of people on the planet are doing, if that makes sense. Like I think we've kind of seen this with Bitcoin even over the last couple of years is you know, a lot of people thought that the average person was gonna become orange pilled and they were all gonna realize the amazing sovereignty that Bitcoin could allow them.

[22:48] Marty Bent: Yeah. I think that's happened to a lot of like Kyle Olney, who's in the Bay Area. We had a conversation on Tuesday. It was published yesterday, and that's exactly what he said. He's like the alarm bells are going off in the valley. He's he one of the direct or paraphrase quotes from our conversation was like people are actually taking open source seriously now, where they thought it was they were interesting pet projects before, but to your point Fable five being pulled really sent a shot across the bow of of the valley and has people seriously considering like, okay, how do I run this stuff locally on open open models, open weight, open source models?

[23:26] Erin Redwing: Yeah, I mean, if the government did a great job of running fiat currency, like if it managed its money responsibly, like a lot of us wouldn't be very into Bitcoin. Maybe there would still be, you know, a pretty big like privacy contingency that's interested in that kind of thing. But a lot of the like dollar debasement, inflation, value proposition of Bitcoin or something like gold would go away if it was well managed. So it's like, you know, part of the part of the decay of s of something that's in power or like the the institutional rot or whatever you want to call it. Like then sows the seeds for the thing to come up that is the solution.

[25:06] Marty Bent: Wha how does Bitcoin have a astrological chart? Is it is it on October thirty first, January third? Like what is the

[25:09] Erin Redwing: Good question. So this is this is a bit of a point of controversy. I use the January third, two thousand nine chart. So this is like the Genesis block. I think about the white paper as essentially being conception, right? So we do the astrology of birth, not necessarily when a child is conceived. So I view it as the white paper that October thirty-first, two thousand eight date. Is like Bitcoin being conceived, and then Bitcoin is actually bl born in its form of like being a blockchain on January 3rd, 2009. So we have an exact birth time. It's like 1815 UTC on January 3rd, 2009, with that Chancellor on the second brink of bailouts for banks Genesis block that was mined by Satoshi, presumably.

[27:24] Erin Redwing: never thought was possible before, but now I have this new idea and maybe it's idealistic, but maybe it will work, or maybe it won't. You know, it's it's that sort of like push-pull between reality and dreams. and we're getting that right on Bitcoin's natal moon, moon is like the emotional inner world. I think of Bitcoin's Aries moon as being like the fighter spirit of Bitcoin, the thing that's like, it won't be defeated, it will continue to fight. The thing that a lot of people are drawn to in Bitcoin is that kind of like What's like the honey badger phrase, you know what I mean? Like that that whole thing. Yep. Yes, exactly. So that needs a new dream. I think that right now, you know, people are are sort of looking at something like micro strategy and they're saying, like, no, you know, if if micro strategy fails, like maybe Bitcoin's gonna fail. Maybe that's gonna bring everything down. It's like, okay, well, if micro strategy

[27:53] Marty Bent: Yeah. The honey badger money. The anti fragility of the network, all that.

[28:18] Erin Redwing: like building a financial Rube Goldberg machine on top of Bitcoin in order to try to get yield, which is something that everyone has tried to do for the entirety of Bitcoin, by the way, like causes Bitcoin to fail, then like this was never gonna succeed, right? So I do think we kind of have to do a little bit of the kill your heroes, figure out why you were here in the first place, find the heart and soul of Bitcoin again type of thing this year. it's not not necessarily like a price action year, because price is is you know, price going up is not when you realize why you're here in the first place, right?

[29:27] Marty Bent: The the July inflection point, Neptune, hitting the four degree marks soon and like Bitcoin's lunar moon. So next month.

[29:34] Erin Redwing: Right. yes. I was I was sort of saying like I think that, you know, Bitcoin is wrapped up in this, but I d I think a lot of the the drama and the news that you'll see will be much more focused on AI. Like it AI is the main character right now, if that makes sense. It's not Bitcoin is sort of this thing in the background, that that may or may not, you know, be hurt or benefit from the AI bubble depending on how things go. So I I really think that July is about AI, surveillance, digital intelligence, like what it means to be able to access digital intelligence, or, you know, in my in my view, what we're creating is kind of like a hive mind consciousness as well, you know, it's like being trained on all of our data and then we're shaping our thoughts around it and everything feeds back into itself.

[30:38] Marty Bent: Yeah, I I've seen you tweet and I think we've discussed DMs too. You think Sam Altman in OpenAI particularly, and it's gonna be a big month for them specifically. And like what like again going into like the age of Aquarius and Neptune New Beginnings. That's what I that's what I'm wondering. Like what I you can see the setup for something big happening in a couple of weeks here with Fable Phi being pulled and Trump coming to to Elon's defense of the data center build out in Memphis and

[30:47] Erin Redwing: Yeah.

[31:07] Marty Bent: You y you can feel this tension in the AI space 'cause things are progressing so quickly and people are on the cutting edge getting access to these models and leverage them and are leveraging them or seeing like, my gosh, this is this is powerful and I want more of this. And you have to imagine the government saying, like, yes, it is powerful. I do understand you want more of it, but it may be too powerful to let out of our grasp. And so we gotta put some rules in order here.

[31:34] Erin Redwing: Yeah, I think that's that's part of the question is who's more powerful, the government or AI? you know, something I noticed, so I live in California, and something I noticed is there was kind of no governor's race this year. I don't know if you follow California politics or anything like that, but you know, California is the th like fourth largest economy in the world now, thanks to the AI bubble. It's a huge, huge power to be running. Of course it's has its problems, so it's like, you know, it's not necessarily the best job to be governor of California, but you would think that Anthropic or OpenAI, both of whom are headquartered in San Francisco, would care about the outcome of something like the governor's race.

[33:39] Erin Redwing: It doesn't matter what governments or businesses or whoever's in charge, like they have ultimate superintelligence and so they're gonna completely rewrite the world order. Or they already know that government officials are using AI, and so they already have soft control over everyone because they're the ones who control the models. These are like the only two scenarios that I think make any sense given the situation with what we are seeing in electoral politics. And so I kind of went on that California tangent because I think that. While it may seem like the government has a lot of power, it the actual reality is that money is what has power.

[35:55] Erin Redwing: What do these AI people think about the future? And a lot of them have extremely dystopic ideas. Like you mentioned, Sam Altman. Sam Altman did WorldCoin before all of this. Like, do you remember WorldCoin? you know, Worldcoin, for those who are not familiar, was Sam Altman's crypto project that basically wanted to scan everyone's retina.

[36:04] Marty Bent: Yep. Yeah.

[36:15] Erin Redwing: In order to verify that they were human and reward them with WorldCoin that then they could like use as one world currency, right? Like this is like an insanely dystopic idea. but yeah, this is this is Sam Altman's view. And and Sam Altman similarly really used to believe in like UBI. He used to talk about UBI all the time, that AI was gonna get rid of all these jobs, and so we need UBI. Recently, he started talking about universal-based open AI stock. That's where he's pivoted. I'm like not even kidding. Like now he doesn't even see it like, we should have like, you know, our own bank accounts or whatever.

[36:42] Marty Bent: Ha ha I went to two of those. Yeah. They were So before we get to the lectures, I'll mention too, like Dario, his blog post that he that he released alongside the Fable Five release was very similar in this vein, basically a veiled threat of the government. Like governments move too slow, we're moving fast, like they can catch up or get left behind. So like that validates what you were just saying there. But the Peter Thiel

[37:09] Erin Redwing: Did you really? Okay, what were they like? I have to know. Mm.

[37:34] Marty Bent: Antichrist Lectures. He he did it at UATX when I was still in Austin. So it was a four part series. He did two a week for two weeks. I was able to make the first and third lectures of the four part series. It was very interesting. actually I think it was the first and last. I made one and four.

[37:52] Erin Redwing: That's good. Those are probably the ones to go to, right?

[37:54] Marty Bent: Yeah. And it was very inter it was I I think it a lot of what basically the whole thesis of and like I can hear freaks listening to this right now, like you went to Peter Sheel. It's like we've been talking about him on the podcast, we've been talking about Palantir, everybody's worried about like the Illuminati, we just talked about him on rabbit hole recap. I was like, All right, like if we're gonna talk about him, maybe we should see him up close and personal. But the whole the whole f yeah.

[38:17] Erin Redwing: For sure. You have to bear witness. That's what I always tell people. Like if you catch me on some like Epstein flight log, like, yeah, I'm gonna go 'cause I need to see what's going on. Like that's that's just my thing. I like to witness things. So, you know, you gotta go to the Peter Thiel Antichrist lecture series. Like, come on.

[38:26] Marty Bent: Ha ha ha. Yeah. And this whole the whole core argument of the lecture series was like too many people are focused on Armageddon, like the end of the world, rapture, when they should be more worried about the Antichrist. And it was like drawing a distinction between the two, describing what each thing looks like rapture, like God comes down and you you get judged and you either go to hell or you get a heaven. or you have some cataclysmic sort of asteroid event that takes out the world or some grid failure, whatever it may be, volcano eruption. And then most pe his argument was that most people are worried about that cataclysmic event.

[40:22] Erin Redwing: Yeah, I think you know, if I put it in in astrological terms, because all of this sort of like revelations and the the kind of story of Christianity in Christ, all of that fits into astrology. I mean, I've I've used this line a million times, but the three wise men looking for a star that signaled the the coming of Christ, those are astrologers. Those were three astrologers that were looking for the beginning of the age of Pisces. And they found the exact time and place, and they showed up at the manger and they were like, Yes, we're the best astrologers in the world. We just figured this out like sick.

[42:40] Erin Redwing: if it's the Antichrist side, they're looking at like, well, Peter Thiel might be the Antichrist or Elon Musk might be might be the Antichrist. They're looking for like human beings.

[42:49] Marty Bent: This was an interesting detail of Peter's lecture is that he thinks like the Antichrist has to be almost a direct reflection of the actual Christ. And so they have to be like around thirty three years old. Like it was one of the core arguments he made is like if the Antichrist is going to be human, they have to be younger. And so maybe he was just trying to disqualify himself, maybe as the Antichrist playing a a sleight of hand. But that was another core point he made which I thought was interesting.

[43:09] Erin Redwing: Right, right, right. That is really interesting. I mean, I think if if there is an Antichrist coming around, it's definitely an Aquarius. I'll just say that now. Like that's that's for sure the situation. but part of why I'm skeptical of it being a human being or or taking shape in like that sort of human form is because Aquarius is a sign of decentralization. That's part of why. The Age of Aquarius and studying that astrologically brought me to Bitcoin, is because Bitcoin has a lot of these properties that are Aquarian in nature. Aquarius is about interacting with other people while not losing your own individuality. So in the Pisces era, we were much more likely to dissolve into hierarchical structures and say, okay, I don't have direct access to God, but maybe my my pastor does and then maybe the pope above him does and and you know like you had to go through these hierarchical institutions in order to access God or to access power or to access wealth or whatever it is.

[45:34] Erin Redwing: What matters to you and what you think is like, my God, this is the big news of the day. You go talk to someone at the grocery store and they haven't even heard of it. You know, like if you ask like people at the grocery store like who's Peter Thiel, I bet a lot of them have never heard of him, right? So I don't know that like the I don't know that there's even the ability to have like a person or a character emerge that becomes as influential as what was possible in the past. Like I think it has to be some sort of decentralized structure.

[46:29] Marty Bent: I think it was no, it was it was it was one of the examples he gave, but he's he was just like I think he was trying to basically elicit like this is the the archetype of the person you should be looking for, the antichrist 'cause Yeah. Yeah. And the 'cause it's crazy, just like the energy the last two weeks. Like you look at like the the ceasefire deal in Iran, you look at the World Cup in the US.

[46:40] Erin Redwing: He's he's trying to put it put it off him, you know? He's like, No, no, no, it's over there, it's over there.

[46:57] Marty Bent: The UFC fight on the lawn, the the 250th anniversary, obviously, of the Declaration of Independence right around the corner. And you just have to feel this culmination of energy. And to be honest, in the United States, from my perspective, vibes are very high right now. there there certainly are that that disconnection and that dislocation of wealth is there. But like it you can see it in some pockets, like AI, particularly. On the infrastructure build out it is giving blue collar workers, welders and electricians like high paying jobs. The SpaceX IPO obviously it made Elon a trillionaire and if the stock price stays where it is now, like he also minted four thousand five hundred millionaires within his own company, many of which were low level cafeteria workers.

[48:40] Erin Redwing: That's f so funny that you that's so funny that you say that because I feel like I've seen not exactly the exact opposite, but a different flavor of this, which is you see the Knicks winning in New York and Zorron Mamdani kind of like riding that wave and like, you know, in terms of I think Zoran is is sort of the last figure of the left, right? Like who can you point to that really seems like they're they're able to kind of amass interest and power. It's kind of just Zoran. Zoran was successful in that mayoral arr mayoral race. And like to have something like the Knicks win for the first time in like however many years, and like New York is like all up, like they're feeling so good.

[49:44] Marty Bent: Zoom Ram Zom Ram Dani, thirty four. I'm just saying.

[49:49] Erin Redwing: There you go. Wait, he I wonder if he was thirty three when he got elected.

[49:54] Marty Bent: Born October eighteenth, I'm I just checked. So yeah, I think he would have been thirty three when he was elected.

[49:56] Erin Redwing: Okay, Libra. Interesting. Hm. We'll see. We'll see. He did. He did. Yeah. I mean he's kind of like I I doubt he'll run in twenty twenty eight. I mean I imagine he wants to do a full term in New York, but

[50:03] Marty Bent: Came out of nowhere. Dude came out of nowhere. Might not legally be able to they might be too young. no he yeah he

[50:17] Erin Redwing: No, he's he's yeah. he's probably right just barely maybe old enough to run. I mean you look at someone like Barack Obama, right? Like Barack Obama was like meteoric, very, very fast rise. So you could see Zo Ron Mamdani following that track or like someone else who hasn't emerged yet. But I don't know. I I do think like it's like AI people think like they're gonna find AGI and like they're gonna be so wealthy and it's gonna be amazing. Or like Trump fans are like, yeah, like we're gonna negotiate the peace deal. Like it does seem like vibes are high in a certain way. I kind of I I tend to agree with you.

[52:35] Erin Redwing: Is July 15th through 25th. These are very slow-moving planets. So it's not like, you know, it gets into alignment and it's like, ha, and then you have, you know, your crazy moment in the sky and then it's done. These are very slow-moving planets. So that's sort of just the peak. We're gonna be feeling it all throughout July. And then August, we go into eclipse season, and eclipse season is always chaotic. So kind of what I expect is that. The pieces will come into place during July. And if you're like a noticer, if you're paying attention, if you're reading between the lines, you will see what's happening.

[54:49] Erin Redwing: An era of decentralization for better or for worse. And so if you're looking for some sort of like institution to make everything right, or you're looking for like a silver bullet where you don't have to do anything and things just get figured out for you, like that's not that's not where we're going. If you if you allow society to make decisions for you, you're gonna end up in that like permanent underclass bucket, right? Like you're gonna be highly surveilled, you're gonna be paying subscription service and rent for everything that you use, you're not gonna own anything. maybe you'll be happy. I don't know, maybe you'll own nothing, you'll be happy, like they said, but that's not the future that I want.

[55:21] Marty Bent: Yeah.

[55:45] Erin Redwing: How can I use this to my advantage to carve out the life that I want? That's not me just like fighting against the current over and over and over again. which is individual, right? Like that's that's an individual journey.

[55:53] Marty Bent: Yeah. What do you think the the b do you think it's a big event or do you think it's just a series of events of

[56:04] Erin Redwing: Well, we didn't talk about UFOs.

[56:06] Marty Bent: Yeah. Well was Trump on the front lawn with representatives from MacArthur last week. Was that real or was that AI generated? I couldn't

[56:10] Erin Redwing: He's there with the Nordic aliens. Dude, I don't know. I've like, there's really no way to know. I heard both, but it's like I I I have no idea. I mean, I you know, if you didn't already think I was crazy for, you know, an hour of astrology ramblings, like maybe now you'll think I'm crazy. I definitely believe that we've had contact with other entities, whether that's like Angels and demons or aliens, like maybe that line is kind of blurry and and you know, like we have like a sci-fi idea of what things could look like, which is like aliens living on other planets, and then we have like a religious narrative, which is things like the Catholic miracles or you know interactions with a angels and demons or the coming of Christ or whatever, right?

[58:03] Erin Redwing: Maybe dropping a nuke, but I don't think that's like where we're headed either. Yeah, agreed. I mean honestly, hopefully the alien reveal doesn't happen if it's gonna happen in like a fucked up way either, you know. I'd rather it stay a secret. So it's hard to say.

[58:07] Marty Bent: Hopefully that doesn't happen. Yeah, disclosure. Yeah, the newscaster's just gonna start going.

[58:21] Erin Redwing: Yeah.

[58:22] Marty Bent: The

[58:24] Erin Redwing: They're gonna do a flash mob on CNN and they're all gonna start like clicking on their their desks in hopes that you'll watch their programming.

[58:32] Marty Bent: Yeah, it is I mean, 'cause you've you've had just the the teasing of the disclosure going on for years now. And I I think it had way more momentum last year, around this time than it does now. It seems like it died off. I don't know if it was the war in Iran, whatever it may be, but yeah

[58:51] Erin Redwing: I think people can't handle it. Like they don't even, you know, if you went to a lot of people and you were like, hey, aliens are real, they'd be like, Okay, and I have rent due. You know, like I don't I don't wanna deal with this. It's like I think it's a bit it's a bit too much, I think, for people 'cause the problem is, at least how I see it from my understanding of a lot of these UFO experiencer types of interactions, is like we don't know what they want. You know, it's not like it's not like these events happen and they're like, hey, you know, we're gonna take over your your planet or we're gonna, you know, get you guys to be a part of the Galactic Federation Council.

[1:01:08] Marty Bent: But Like bringing it back to the the Antichrist, I mean they're I mean the the the Catholic perspective is that the aliens are angels and demons and who knows, maybe maybe we're led to believe that an alien race has has made contact and they're here and they're gonna work with us and they have a leader, who's who's gonna tell us the the ways in which we can right the wrongs of of what we've done on this planet and accelerate into the future. Maybe he's the Antichrist, you know.

[1:01:42] Erin Redwing: I mean certainly we see like common characters like I mean it's slightly different but like the DMT Clockwork Alps, right? Like these are characters that people see yeah, we were talking about that.

[1:01:49] Marty Bent: Yeah, whoa, we were talking about that at dinner. Why are people getting kicked out of the DMT world at such a fast clip?

[1:01:57] Erin Redwing: Maybe they're preparing, you know, maybe they're preparing for some sort of revelation. I don't know. I've heard a lot of I mean, I've spent like the last eight months going to UFO c conventions and talking to UFO people because I'm I'm actually like writing a novel about all of this. So it's sort of like for my own creative process as well as my own like intellectual curiosity. I'm like using it for both. But I have heard so many narratives. Like it it is. No one no one really knows. And I think it's hard to imagine what kind of experience would have to happen for people to actually believe one thing.

[1:02:53] Marty Bent: Okay.

[1:02:54] Erin Redwing: Like there's no way to verify like a universal truth anymore. So I think that if there are entities out there that have any interest in establishing themselves as like a part of our lore or a part of our human story, like they're gonna have to do something really big and and I don't know, it seems like maybe they don't want that, you know? Like that that sort of s it seems like they they don't necessarily want everyone to believe in them or they don't want to be discovered. So I don't know if that will change. It's it's very hard to say. But I'm I'm personally very interested in the UFO stuff. So that's kind of my like, like I feel like July astrology kind of crazy moments are likely about AI and surveillance and you know, these kind of like technological, dystopic events. But personally, I'm like, maybe it's aliens. You know, that's like what I would be most interested in.

[1:03:45] Marty Bent: Yeah. The what it so obviously we this alignment coming up in next month, eclipses in August. What happens after that? Like what do we settle into? and what's that transition look like?

[1:04:00] Erin Redwing: So the rest of t yeah, the rest of twenty twenty six is a lot of reworking and restructuring. So this spring, like the first half of twenty twenty six has been very, very active. So we started with Saturn-Neptune conjunction on February twentieth, twenty twenty-six. So I kind of mentioned like there's already been some stuff that's happened in twenty twenty six that's kind of teed this off. It's not like it's not like we're waiting for the beginning of a new era. A lot of us, especially those of us who are vibe coding or using AI, like, you know, we feel like we're living in a fundamentally different world than we were two years ago, at least when it comes to our interactions with the computer and our ability to do things.

[1:05:01] Marty Bent: The open call movie. Yeah.

[1:05:29] Erin Redwing: Sort of like from some perspectives you could call it an AI arms race, right? If you want to tie the geopolitics into it and think about things like US versus China, the global world order, who has power, is it the AI companies, the governments, et cetera? That kind of got kicked off, I think, in February. and then July, we sort of, I think, have maybe like a cementing or an alignment of things where that could be. For example, the US, you know, is aligned with OpenAI and they decide that they're doing XYZ and that's the new power structure. Like, I think it's February kicked off something that will come into a more completed, perfect alignment in July.

[1:07:48] Erin Redwing: a company or an individual to greatly decrease the cost of whatever it would have taken them to build whatever they're building. But that value doesn't directly go into the AI companies, right? That's just a $20 a month Claude subscription. So the value that AI is creating or destroying is not necessarily going into these companies that are IPOing, but we're certainly acting like it is, right? Like we're saying that like trillions of dollars, you know, can go into training these models and that's definitely going to reward open AI or anthropic. But maybe it won't, you know, like that that might be the case. And so I kind of wonder if astrologically speaking, this fall, if we see these IPOs happening and we actually see a rethinking of the value around these things, that maybe we had all of this hype that started building extremely in February 2020 and we were like, my God, we're in the future.

[1:09:52] Marty Bent: Well, when do we get relative calm? 'Cause just thinking of my life. Like dot com bubble, nine eleven. Yeah, real dot com bubble, nine eleven, great financial crisis, covet, AI.

[1:09:57] Erin Redwing: Relative relative calm. twenty thirty-two is like the next big like astrological like uh-oh moment. Cause like two thousand one, two thousand eight, and twenty twenty were all like moments for astrology. And you know, what you just listed are those three things. Twenty thirty-two is one of those. I've actually pointed to that as being my date for if Bitcoin has not established itself at that point, it's like not gonna work. Like twenty thirty-two is kind of my timeline for You know, Bitcoin can't just be this speculative asset. It has to be integrated in something in some way, or it has to be a a clear part of something, you know, beyond just our hopes and dreams and podcasting that we do about it, you know?

[1:11:50] Marty Bent: It's do or die. Yeah. So we're going to the Valley of Despair right now.

[1:11:59] Erin Redwing: We are. We are. It's more positive. I think like again it sort of depends on like what what restructuring we're we're doing around like the the reason why we're all here. you know, I think how

[1:12:00] Marty Bent: What is next year looking like for Bitcoin?

[1:12:18] Erin Redwing: Something that I like I've kind of found myself in like an interesting world in Bitcoin because like I'm a Bitcoin astrologer, so it's kind of like a weird take to have on Bitcoin. So sometimes I end up with like the Bitcoin think boys who are doing like Bitcoin's literally a digital battery, like type of claims about Bitcoin, because Bitcoin astrology is sort of like falls into that realm. but then because I have like my podcast with Casey, who's very much on the Bitcoin technical side of things, I also end up with a lot of devs and a lot of like hardcore Bitcoin nerds. And a lot of the groups in Bitcoin have very, very different ideas of what Bitcoin should be or what success looks like.

[1:13:00] Marty Bent: In August.

[1:13:17] Erin Redwing: Big chaotic change that you want to be successful. It's the time to do a big chaotic change that's gonna flop majorly. Like that's what August is. so again, that's happening in August, but yeah, I don't know. I think I think it's yet to be seen what will emerge from like Bitcoin culture and the Bitcoin movement after 2026. It is looking more positive though. Like I think in terms of like price action and the world aligning in a direction that Bitcoin is also aligning. And by that I mean like, you know, when we talked about things like the government printing and being irresponsible with money is good for Bitcoin.

[1:15:12] Marty Bent: Yeah. No, it's it's been funny. It's 'cause when Paper Bitcoin Summer happened last summer throughout the whole thing, I mean we we were cheering it on tongue in cheek. but also telling people like, Hey, you're buying shares in a in a company that that holds Bitcoin. It's not the same as holding Bitcoin and it's been very interesting to w watch, especially like in the last few weeks since stretch has lost its peg, I it's trading at like eighty three dollars. So seventeen dollars below par and we're like, Hey guys, like stop Parker is a good friend of mine, like very vocal on Twitter specifically, going straight at Stribe and Micro Strategy and saying you're you're saying that this is better than Bitcoin when it's obviously not, like nothing is and it you can I c you can see this bifurcation.

[1:16:28] Erin Redwing: Congrats. Happy birthday.

[1:16:39] Marty Bent: I feel like just having the pattern recognition of being in Bitcoin for many years before I started writing and now, obviously being immersed in the industry, it's very clear to me the different factions and their perspectives and I know which faction I sit in which is stay on the stack sats, use the tool the way it was supposed to be or the way the when you say the way it's supposed to be used, people get very triggered, but I think the way it's supposed to be used is is actually applicable here where it's peer to peer digital cash, use it that way. Hold your own keys.

[1:17:44] Erin Redwing: Yeah, I mean, people are getting wrecked, right? Like that's that's the thing. It's like if you just self-custody your own Bitcoin, you know, life circumstances might mean that you have to sell it here and there in order to pay your rent or pay your mortgage or whatever. But generally speaking, like it's yours and there's nothing that will change the Bitcoin amount in there, even if the dollar amount of that Bitcoin changes. But if you're doing like derivatives on top of derivatives seeking the yield, like the risk is coming from somewhere and Again, I feel like this is a lesson that a lot of us learned when we got into Bitcoin initially, but greed is a sin for a reason, right?

[1:20:03] Erin Redwing: go towards greed and then greed can corrupt all of it. So I feel like that's kind of part of it too is like the pitfalls will continue. Like micro strategy might not be, you know, the big player in Bitcoin in five years because of the financial decisions that they made a year ago or are making now. Like I'm not saying that's definitely the case, but that could be the case. just like FTX is not around anymore, even though Sam Bankman Freed and FTX was such a huge part of that twenty twenty one bull run. but Bitcoin will still be here. And so I think like that's that's kind of like the most ideal form of this restructuring around the heart and soul of Bitcoin that is happening in 2026 is like people need to rediscover while they're why they're here and hopefully continue to make that hard decision of not just like going for fast and easy, easy money, you know, that that that like lore that's placed in front of them all the time.

[1:21:42] Marty Bent: It's it's almost like people should have stayed humble and sack sats, you know. It's it's well like and and to put a more positive spin on this while all the attention has been drawn towards that part of the market, and I think in recent months more negative attention towards that part of the market, but it it's still amassing a a large portion of of the attention space of of our industry. A ton of incredible like low level protocol development, not not on Bitcoin protocol, but second layer protocol development with like Arc Spark, eCashments. And like you can see them silently, unless you're paying attention, you you don't know this is happening, but like the the interoperability between all these second layer solutions that can enable Bitcoin as as true freedom money that is used as a medium of exchange on top of a store of value in a unit of account.

[1:23:10] Erin Redwing: Totally. I mean the vibe coding stuff helps Bitcoin too, right? Like the fact that people can use AI in order to enhance what they were able to build before AI is amazing and and certainly Bitcoin will benefit from that. N not necessarily vibe coding, but I just used Bitcoin to pay for coffee at a coffee shop near to my house b thanks to Square. Like literally yesterday I did that. You know, that's Aaron in twenty twenty three or twenty twenty two, like hearing that, I would have been like, my God, we're finally here. Wow, that's crazy. I just went to this coffee shop and was able to use my Phoenix Lightning wallet to pay for my coffee. Like that's that's a huge thing, right? But we are, as you said, we're kind of like distracted by the market and and following the price action. and so yeah, I think like it we have to figure out what the real focus is here.

[1:24:02] Marty Bent: What what would you like to see, on the Bitcoin side after we get through this chaotic period of the summer and move into next year and

[1:24:12] Erin Redwing: You know, I think that, as I said, I I kind of get like a close window to the technical side of things, through Casey and the fact that I w was like, you know, in Ordinal's world and all of that. And I do think that the critiques of Bitcoin Core that are coming from the BIP one tenors are like not entirely unfounded, right? Like I'm not like on Core's side or anyone's side. I kind of think everyone has valid arguments and there's certainly issues. I think one of the main issues that Bitcoin will have moving forward is the tyranny of structurelessness. That's like a famous like feminist anarchist article or essay written I think in like the nineties or something or maybe it was the seventies.

[1:26:32] Erin Redwing: like I remember them saying, like, we're gonna have Opsy TV by the end of the year. Like, no, no, no way we won't, you know, it's totally gonna happen. And we're here in 2026, and it's like that's you know, it's not happened and it's not close to happening, in my opinion. So I do think that the the struggles and the strife that are happening in the development side hopefully will help us figure out what actually needs to happen and we'll figure out a formula for how we How we govern something that doesn't have this sort of formal governance structure. Like this is something that's very, very hard to do and is kind of being done for the first time ever at this scale.

[1:27:24] Marty Bent: Yeah.

[1:27:28] Erin Redwing: Hope that like an institution comes in and says, Okay, here's how we're gonna run Bitcoin Core or whatever, right? Like I don't want to have a a fork that goes off into like one guy maintaining the code or whatever. But we do have to figure these things out. So that's that's really what I'd like to see throughout the rest of 2026 is like let these forks happen, see what happens on the other side of them, and then maybe that can be like the purge that we need in order to like move forward more positively, because there has to be something. that gives on both sides, I think. so that's that's from my vantage point, that's what I see.

[1:28:00] Marty Bent: Yeah. Yep. I think we're very aligned there. And I I've been consistent with this too. Like I can see both sides of the argument. don't think BIP one ten is the solution. Also not happy with how core has been maintained. And there's something that's gotta be figured out on the back end of all this. Right. But unless you choose a side I mean, I d I think I'm probably more sympathetic to the core side, but I I do not agree with everything they did.

[1:28:21] Erin Redwing: Us radical centrists in Bitcoin Yeah, I I we're probably very similar if I had to guess. Like it's yeah, it's it's it's both.

[1:28:40] Marty Bent: Alright, I I wanna end it on something 'cause it like and get back to astrology. You're talking about energies, rel relative energies between these planets and the alignment. Like what what gives you it's almost like you're anthropomorphizing the planets and like what gives them individual energy and what is happening when they're interacting with each other?

[1:28:43] Erin Redwing: Right. The reason for the season. Yeah, so you know, as I said right in the beginning, like astrology is this thousands of years old study of the motion of planetary objects and then trying to find relationships. So it started by just being like, okay, how wh how are these things moving? Like why why does this very bright star sometimes move forward and then it moves back and now it's behind the sun? Like even just figuring that out was was like a non-trivial part of this, of just like figuring out the cycles themselves. So that's one aspect. And then With that, they were kind of were like, my God, it's it's pretty crazy when you get two of those right next to each other, right?

[1:31:22] Erin Redwing: Or the planets or anything like that. That was like a very basic astrological principle that still plays out today. Then, you know, you basically have thousands of years of people doing this work to try to tie together, okay, what happens when this star, or you know, we know it as a planet now, is right next to the sun or is right next to this other star? Like, can we start to suss out relationships? And so astrology basically is the formation of thousands of years of observations of cycles and coming up with. archetypes and universal energies that emerge from observing those cycles. Carl Jung referred to astrology as being all ancient knowledge of human archetypes and psychology, that like this was basically our attempt to understand what consciousness is, what sort of energies play out on an individual level as well as well as a societal level, and to be able to track those.

[1:33:38] Erin Redwing: And they both post on YouTube like once a week. So I'd highly recommend looking into their work if you're like interested in the these kind of topics, because they've done great work. But you know, these are two people that I consider to be like on the level of great ancient astrologers in terms of like the the work that we're all sort of contributing to. So yeah, astrology is basically like a huge collective group project that anyone who gets hyper fixated on it gets to work on.

[1:34:06] Marty Bent: Is there the potential for some sort of like quantum effect via the observation of all this? Like you can you can push it a certain way or another just by having the knowledge that it's happening and then observing and then manifesting.

[1:34:11] Erin Redwing: Maybe. Maybe. I I I definitely wonder this. I mean, you know, in in terms of like, as I said also in the beginning, like I have really interrogated my belief in astrology. It's not like I learned astrology and was like, yep, this must be real. I was like, this can't be real. There's no way. It doesn't make sense. Like, and you know, it's not the gravity of the planets. There's no scientific explanation for astrology. I think that like the conclusion I've come to for myself is I believe it's real for reasons that are sort of external to my own perception, but I'm also okay with it being real in the sense that if you believe something is real and you organize your life around it, reality reflects you back to yourself.

[1:35:57] Marty Bent: I did too. Ancient Aliens is like a show I fall asleep to like three times.

[1:36:01] Erin Redwing: I mean we could do a whole episode on that kind of stuff, like

[1:36:03] Marty Bent: Well that's what you you marked six thousand years ago and in my head I I pinned p put a pin in it, it was like, Well, you get into like Randall Carlson, Graham Hancock.

[1:36:12] Erin Redwing: I mean, Younger Dryas Impact, right? 12,000 years ago. So that was the age of Leo. So Leo is across from Aquarius. So we're doing also this weird inversion of Atlantis. I talk about Atlantis a lot, like in my own content, but like I think that we're reliving the Atlantis narrative and like the fall of Atlantis potentially. And it's like a question of whether we're going to be like Atlantis, which was this like technologically advanced society that fell due to its own hubris. That's the Plato.

[1:36:15] Marty Bent: Yeah.

[1:36:41] Erin Redwing: you know, myth of Atlantis basically says that that hubris was the fall of Atlantis. Look at a city like San Francisco and the AI Tech Bros. Like you can see a lot of similarities where we have all the tools to create a utopia and yet we seem incapable for some reason, or we we're not able to like step into technology in a way that benefits humanity and not just like siphons value for our own personal gain. So, you know,

[1:37:05] Marty Bent: Well that's why I mean, maybe there's a dark horse in this AI race, but mid journey, I'm sure you saw what they released yesterday.

[1:37:10] Erin Redwing: I did, I did. That's craze. I mean, like, I didn't know they were doing anything beyond image generation. Like, that's nuts.

[1:37:18] Marty Bent: Right? They've never raised outside capital and they people don't know what they're doing and then they come out and they're like, we have this incredible image what we call it screening technology. What's word I'm looking for? Scanning technology that can compete with MRIs and is relatively cheap and will hopefully save lives. I was I was very optimistic today after that launch. It's like not dystopian, we're gonna take your jobs. It's like, here's a product. that that we built using revenue from our image generator to to make h humanity better off. It's like okay, it's good to see those every once in a while.

[1:37:56] Erin Redwing: Yeah. Yeah, you have to have like from the darkness emerges light. You know, it's like the tech the major tech companies becoming more dystopic makes the alternatives much more appealing. And so it allows for the little guys to actually win or to get some version of market share when you might have thought, as you said, like mid-journey would have just been totally out of the race at this point. So yeah. I'm optimistic. I I you know, I think that What's coming astrologically will be very difficult for a lot of people. Change is hard. and certainly we've been living through a lot of change. I think a lot of people are ready for change to slow down.

[1:40:03] Marty Bent: Couldn't have said it better myself, Aaron. This was as good, if not better, than I was expecting, and hopefully not the last time we do this.

[1:40:09] Erin Redwing: good. Good. I'm glad to hear it. I wasn't sure. I was like, am I rambling way too much at Marty? Like is Marty like, what the hell did I do having this girl on here?

[1:40:20] Marty Bent: No, that is I I've I've been told I know when to shut up and just let the guests do the talk. And the people came here to listen to you, not listen to me. So this is there was no rambling and I I learned a ton and yeah, I think I think I mean you can just feel it, like I was saying earlier, like it feels like we're crescendoing to some some event soon and it will be interesting to observe if something happens between July fifteenth and july twenty fifth and then

[1:40:27] Erin Redwing: Ha ha ha ha.

[1:40:51] Marty Bent: Another event happens a month later during the eclipses or shortly thereafter.

[1:40:54] Erin Redwing: Yeah, we can check in, you know, in the fall when everything slowed down and we're like, where are the exciting events? We can check in and review and then actually it's it's always good to do year ahead. So like looking ahead at twenty twenty seven, like we can we can check back in and figure out where we landed based on my predictions for twenty twenty six and then like where things are headed.

[1:41:13] Marty Bent: Well, let's plan on doing that this fall then.

[1:41:15] Erin Redwing: Cool. Yeah, thanks so much for having me, Marty. This is amazing. It's always good to be able to go on a podcast and like, you know, just do my deranged ideas and not have someone like look at me like you say that 'cause you're also deranged though, you know? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Kindred spirit, kindred spirit. Cool.

[1:41:24] Marty Bent: It's not arranged. It's not arranged. It's true. It's true. It's not strange to me. All right, we're gonna sign off here, but hold up 'cause I need to give you some dates to check for me. Peace and love, freaks. Take it.

[1:41:42] Erin Redwing: Okay.